Comgest Archives - The TRADE https://www.thetradenews.com/tag/comgest/ The leading news-based website for buy-side traders and hedge funds Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:10:53 +0000 en-US hourly 1 Fireside Friday with… Comgest’s Joe Collery https://www.thetradenews.com/fireside-friday-with-comgests-joe-collery/ https://www.thetradenews.com/fireside-friday-with-comgests-joe-collery/#respond Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:10:53 +0000 https://www.thetradenews.com/?p=97899 The TRADE sits down with head of trading at Comgest, Joe Collery, to unpack how traders and portfolio managers are increasingly working together, the impact of increased collaboration within firms’ set-ups, and how the key characteristics of traders has evolved over the years.

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How do the traders and portfolio managers interact at Comgest?

Every time we execute it’s stored in a database where the portfolio managers (PM) have access as well so they can see themselves how trades have gone. There is a certain overlap where traditionally traders and PMs have been quite segregated.

There is segregation of duties of course, but we believe that the data should be shared as much as possible for transparency. Everyone can then see how a trade performed, detail implicit and explicit costs or how long each stage in the process took. 

We also share group team chats with each of the PM groups, so we’ll be their eyes and ears while they’re traveling, with companies or doing research, as often its unproductive for them to follow real-time price movements. If anything happens, any big moves or relevant news at all we flag it into the chat and that’s how we kind of share the role. We let them know any orders we have going, how it’s going in real-time and then they can see it afterwards in the database as well.

Basically, we’re trying to ensure that both sides have enough space to do what they’re best at. 

What has influenced this set-up? 

I think it’s the firm’s flat structured approach that enables this collaboration in how PMs and traders interact. I know for us it works to be as close as possible and obviously to work in tandem. With the proliferation of outsourced trading firms popping up, it is more important than ever to demonstrate the additive value of the desk showing the difficulty another firm would have to effectively play the role of an in-house desk.

Perhaps for some firms that have particular regions, certain trading types or a larger investment universe with generic benchmarks to track could certainly outsource a portion of it in order to meet their needs.

Has this collaborative always been the case? 

It has certainly gotten more and more that way. It has evolved quite organically and we’re always looking to improve it, but it’s probably been this way for the last five years. We’re stock pickers investing in quality growth companies, so our universe is quite concentrated and it really requires that  hands-on approach rather than relying on automation. 

We’re often trading single names, and we’re very careful about the execution decisions we take and very conscious not to  leave any footprint where possible.

Would you say that traders’ skill-sets have changed over the years?

The old-style trader was a bit more brash and I would like to think this has changed, you definitely need to be more humble, thoughtful  and a deep thinker, but then also have some marketing/relationship management skills as well as some coding knowledge.

If you look at our desk throughout the day it’s a rather quiet environment, quite reflective and focussed, and it’s definitely a more quantitative type of humble, deep thinking, courteous, polite individuals we seek to maintain great relationships. 

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Joe Collery: A TCA wish list for the buy-side https://www.thetradenews.com/joe-collery-a-tca-wish-list-for-the-buy-side/ https://www.thetradenews.com/joe-collery-a-tca-wish-list-for-the-buy-side/#respond Tue, 09 May 2023 11:07:48 +0000 https://www.thetradenews.com/?p=90640 Head of trading at Comgest, Joe Collery, sits down with The TRADE to unpack how buy-side expectations around TCA have evolved and how they can be improved to enhance the multi-asset trading experience. 

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How have buy-side TCA priorities evolved?

Traditionally deemed a compliance requirement for best execution monitoring, TCA has now become an integral part of every desk. TCA is an increasingly important tool for trading desks globally with further regulatory requirements and reporting capabilities deemed fundamental to its application. The increase of regulatory focus on best execution has led to an increased level of transparency across the industry as well as a proliferation of performance measurement tools and applications. On our desk we try to focus on a model of a centralised database with a multitude of benchmarks, all relevant timestamps and all execution venue data contained within. This allows for each department to interact with the data based on its own requirements, whether that be the trading, compliance, investor relations or the client reporting department etc. The flexibility and versatility of the database allows for reporting to meet each specific department’s needs. 

On the pure trading side, it has certainly helped us to identify specific orders that could potentially be automated. Do they follow a pattern? Is an algo wheel appropriate? or whatever we’ve deemed is the best method of execution in each specific case? It’s about interacting with the data to make more informed, meaningful decisions utilising it.

Have can current offerings be improved to better meet the needs of the buy-side?

Ideally there would be more critical information incorporated into our EMS so we can see what activity there is around our orders. We would like to know where the blocks are going off, in particular the ones where we are not involved, what happened a few minutes before, what happened afterwards. The broker venue behaviour needs to be in there too. In the algo space when you’re trading with a broker, they’ll tell you the venues and parameters they use. Considering the broker manages this data in an active manner, why not provide this crucial information to the EMS and empower the user to simply select or deselect a particular venue they deem appropriate for the specific trade at that time.

It’s also the pre-trade element. The theoretical cost of the trade, your expected cost, how can we know exactly how much it is versus the actual performance of the trade? What source do you provide and what metrics are being used? Why not have all the venue providers with their smart front ends feeding directly into your EMS. In this way, instead of you fishing and having to open yourself up, all of this committed liquidity is available at levels that both sides are comfortable with. You could sort your EMS by whatever hierarchical structure appropriate to each order type. That way you haven’t even spoken about your order and all available liquidity options are centrally displayed in a clean line across your EMS. It removes the need for blotter scraping that take information from you and optimises the information already available out there. It would increase market activity during the day and shift a portion of the liquidity currently seen at the Close. 

As head of a desk, what are some of the biggest remaining pain points in trading and how can they be addressed?

The number one current pain point is hiring. We currently receive perhaps a handful of CVs whereas 10/15 years ago it was a lot more. There is a sentiment that perhaps films like Wolf of Wall Street, while entertaining, have given an incorrect or an archaic view of our industry. We’ve shifted and mindsets have evolved impressively through covid. We’ve shown that our industry is a much more pleasant and caring environment to work in where staff welfare is paramount. We are trying to compete with the likes of the Google, LinkedIn, Facebook for talent and need to update the narrative. Is the solution potentially getting that out there more and working directly with communities and schools/universities? Do we need to do more internships to promote positive word of mouth? We must strive to improve the perception of what it’s actually like to work on a trading desk.

A further pain point is industry coordination around regulatory change. There are working groups striving to make markets more efficient and transparent but there needs to be more public forums where all market participants can contribute to a more pragmatic implementation of these proposed changes.

How can the sell-side provider experience be improved in the multi-asset space?

We have to move away from the traditional low touch/high touch model. It has to be a partnership going forward because everybody seems to provide the latest algo, with the best market access and the best prices. They can’t all be doing the same thing. One needs to pick a few houses that suit their particular model. You’ve got to get to see them as a partner and in fact an extension of your desk. It’s forming a partnership that you trust, synergising your capabilities with theirs. Feeding their data (for example, short interest, predicted closing auction volumes etc) into your system for more informed decision making.

Traditionally the broker review was a backward looking, in-person process with limited data available for presentation. The global adoption of a remote working environment brought about by the propagation of Covid transported this traditional in-person review into an online appraisal. This enabled both parties to share enormous amounts of information in a real time environment that would not have been previously available in person. This deep dive analysis of the data has created a new level of transparency, understanding and improvement of the direction the industry would like to push towards – superior executions for the end investor.

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